Monday, July 30, 2012

Tricks

Pun intended.  But not on purpose.  Is there a difference?  Does it matter?

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society or Jehovah's Witnesses have prophesied that false religion will be destroyed.  The trick is how can false religion be removed without removing true religion with it?  I don't know.

But here is why I call it "tricks".  It is the study of the Bible that leads to it's understanding.  Only those people without an agenda can get the real picture of it without distortion.  And there are people like that.  The trick the Watchtower plays is indeed it is getting falsehoods exposed but in the process of it they are embarrassing their own people because they teach their own people the Bible wrong.  

The best way to describe what is happening in my opinion that isn't always so humble is the gathering of Baal worshippers described at 2 Kings 10:20-28  Was it not Jehu who gathered them?

15Now when he had departed from there, he met Jehonadab the son of Rechab coming to meet him; and he greeted him and said to him, “Is your heart right, as my heart is with your heart?” And Jehonadab answered, “It is.” Jehu said, “If it is, give me your hand.” And he gave him his hand, and he took him up to him into the chariot. 16He said, “Come with me and see my zeal for the LORD.” So he made him ride in his chariot. 17When he came to Samaria, he killed all who remained to Ahab in Samaria, until he had destroyed him, according to the word of the LORD which He spoke to Elijah.







Baal?

baal means among other things archer (Revelation 6:2), babbler (2 Timothy 4:3), captain (Matthew 24:45), chief man (1 Timothy 3:1-7), confederate (1 Corinthians 12:13), have to do (every JW must be a publisher of their "good news"), dreamer (and every publisher who endures in publishing Watchtower doctrine is rewarded everlasting life on paradise Earth.

Also, it was Jehu who destroyed false religion in Israel, just like the Witnesses claim to have started by exposing false religion's errors "She has fallen, Babylon the great has fallen".  They say that has already occurred.

1 Corinthians 15:33

But if the child was created by the dragon, it being the dragon's child, and caught away to God's throne then heaven would be inviting bad association which spoil useful habits.  Mystery solved!

More words

Revelation 12:1-6

How is the child not God's child?

I'm talking about the pregnancy and birth, not about rape.  OK?  I do not know who the woman is.

The woman is in severe pains giving birth to it.  It is something she does not want.
The dragon is present at the birth.  What god would allow the enemy to be present at the birth of HIS child?  Not even stupid ones would.
It wants to devour it.  Why would the dragon care about destroying it if it wasn't competition?  Remember "the WHOLE World is lying in the power of the wicked one".  If it was God's child the dragon would be glad for more of it.  Why would he want it dead?  He would not want it dead if it was holy.  It's metaphor, OK?

The vision shows the child being caught away to God and that is reminiscent of God the head of all.  I'm talking to people who uh, who uh, um who know the Bible.  

So there!  Revelation 12 describes a crime, not a blessing.  

They say it's the birth of the Kingdom of God.  And that is not right unless the dragon is god.  I think the dragon is not god.  What do You think?

You think I am not nice?  

Do I know how stupid I am?

Uh, yes?

Holy God

I just can't shake that I am

Pissed means drunk?  Who knew?

I just can't shake that I am bitter that someone posted I am annoying because I post long posts.  And nobody posted back to jerk face (I forget who) you must be thinking of someone else.  That's how I know I have no friends on JWN.  Except for two part time friends.  They sure can tell me I'm wrong but when someone is wrong about me they are right.  I feel like getting pissed.

I haven't been able to access the list.

Thank you God.

Heads up!

I did not get nominated for most hated, damn.

This is what I see.  Judges.

There are some good people who are Jehovah's Witnesses.

Actually, I was one.  So I know..... (do I always have to say when it is a joke?  I wonder?)

Haha

But people are not an organization, unless it is Steve Colbert you are talking to.

There are people who love the people who are Jehovah's Witnesses who defend the organization believing they are doing their friends and family a favor by protecting the group.

It's all in theory though, but we won't get into that.

We're going to talk about judging.

Good people do not make good assemblies.  I mean, just because there are good people in a group does not make the whole group good.  It had to be said.

So to judge the whole group good because it includes some good people is counter productive and against The Word of God which says "do not judge".  But You who judge are judging them good, not bad?  What?

Nope! I didn't say that

I said you are thankless because you don't believe in God?  Hm.  I did?  LOL

One good thing comes of You reading into what isn't there.  It's just like us reading into the gift of life has a giver.  That would make you a thankless hypocrite.  Which is really really funny.

It is you know.

How is Armageddon God's War?

Is that what people are saying?

It is the demons that gather the kings for war, so how is it God's war?  Are the demons going to make God fight?  Haha?

   12The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river, the Euphrates; and its water was dried up, so that the way would be prepared for the kings from the east.
   13And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; 14for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty.15(“Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes, so that he will not walk about naked and men will not see his shame.”) 16And they gathered them together to the place which in Hebrew is called Har-Magedon.

"We don't want to"

I know you don't.  But every word you have posted on every forum every day is all about being true.  Now is no time to prove false.  Is it?

The Evolution of an Attitude

It's a test.  This test has two parts.

It is for the atheists.  The happy ones.

I know there are happy atheists.  I trust people know themselves (that's a philosophical problem but it's not part of the test so you can forget it).

Part one of the test is determining that it is true you are happy.  People who are atheists keep writing on forum that they are happier than ever since dumping the god concept.  And to be an atheist one must also believe evolution is the way we got here where we are.

Evolution of matter has to be believed to be way harder than evolution of an idea.*  Is that correct?

I hope so.

Here it is.  OK.  Evolution occurs when the setting (I know it's not called that, there's no one here to help me except for google I would hug it if I could) causes pressure on the organic thing and change occurs.  Good changes rule.    What has caused an atheist's setting the most?  In the East.  I mean the West.  Christ has, the man called Jesus.  You might say you would be pressured some other way and also reach happiness but atheist debaters can not say that without looking foolish.  Part one of the test is done.

Part two is for asking yourself are you truly happy?  I believe you you are.

I think there is no way to squirm out of the fact that the world as it is is due to Jesus.  And I have even heard you, many many times blame your non existent god for the starving child so you have advertised already that IF god was real he would be to blame for the death of the children.

If you have passed in your test with your TRUE answers, you may now paste THANKLESS on your forehead.

*that means organic life with it's complicated DNA (and RNA) must have had a much more methodical movement forward to here than a thought did.

er

Sunday, July 29, 2012

I'm saying

There are those who say Armageddon is about war.  It's not war.

There are those who say it is a mad man's hallucination and it means nothing.  Hm.

There are them who don't care.  They win!

They say Armageddon will happen in the future, will never happen or I don't care.

Not caring means having no participation in it, which can be a good thing.  It is actually.

You can not see we are IN IT?  LOL.  That is what is so funny.   

Asking the baddest speller to spell

Fine.  I shall s p e l l  i t  o u t

They say Armageddon means the end of wickedness.  It's the beginning of wickedness.

It's about not agreeing with anything except.... Never mind.

Is it really so God has said you must not eat from any tree... Darned if I know...




You can see it, can you not?

"The Great Day of God the Almighty" is war?

Revelation 16:12-16  The DEMONS gathered the kings.  I am being nice.

b. metaphorically, the 'day' is regarded as the time for abstaining from indulgence, vice, crime, because acts of the sort are perpetrated at night and in darkness: 1 Thessalonians 5:5, 8; hence αἰών οὗτος (see αἰών, 3) is likened to the night, αἰών μέλλων, to day, and Christians are admonished to live decorously as though it were light, i. e. as if  αἰών  μέλλων were already come, Romans 13:12ἕως ἡμέρα ἐστιν while it is day, i. e. while life gives one an opportunity to work, John 9:4. of the light of knowledge, 2 Peter 1:19.

Please World GET A GRIP

It's not war, it's strife.  The demons (those wishing to thwart the will of God) are inserting doubt that leads to STRIFE that prevents PEACE OMG



Angry or bitter disagreement over fundamental issues; conflict.
Synonyms:quarrel - contention - dispute - fight - conflict

I don't know what it is called

The first word that came to mind is mire.  Then I thought of the crooked house that belonged to the crooked man (nursery rhyme). I don't know what it is.  I know why it happened and I shall tell you.

I get no respect on forums.  Never had, never will.  And I own it.  It is my fault it is so.  But it is not on purpose. I won't change the way I think so that I will be liked.  And I don't know how to say what I think any better so that I might be understood.  It's just the way it is and I understand.

What started the feud on JWN?  The girl is still talking about it! After how many months?


It started by her calling me Andrew.  I let it go.  So what?  N.drew is not my real name.  I just thought it was rude, but it was also a little bit cute.

We were on a difficult thread when she posted something opposed but also said "I usually don't read your threads".  Well, if you want to give me trouble about not understanding me, then read my threads.  If not, then don't.  It's simple, but that is not the way forum works.

So given all of that I said "I don't like you palmtree".  And the whole forum came down on my head.  I did not like that she calls me Andrew.  I did not like that she criticizes what I post but is not even following my train of thought.  And I especially don't like that she gets special treatment by them all.  Only one, two counting Sab, came to my defense and palmtree went ballistic.   Since then the one coming to my defense has changed sides but still palmtree is not satisfied.

All the hate because I honestly said "I don't like you" and honestly, I don't.

I'm being paranoid?

I am?

Because I said I was being monetered?  Oh bother.  It's monitored.  To monitor.

One reason is you don't talk.

Another reason is that my posts are looked at almost right away.  For that I guess I am proud.  I don't know why.  Is your thinking capacity all choppy? That should be scary, not funny.

When I don't post something new for awhile no one, and I mean no one, checks in.

You thought I was paranoid.
You're not the only one.

That is what I meant would make a funny story.  Don't you think so?



You know

People do not like the truth.
Nothing you can say can make a person begin to 
     love the truth.  
You are doing your part to cause a few to respect the truth
     and for that I am sure Heaven can commend you. 


I do not wonder why you did not post back to her
Don't be ridiculous, N.drew is NOT my friend....
She does not even know she is my sister in Christ. 


It's the truth.
The prophets did not keep quiet because they would hurt 
     someone's feelings did they? 
Or did the people they hurt deserve it?
I do not believe anyone deserves to be hurt. 


 
Where are all the people who blasted me when I posted personal 
     shit? 
Where is mrsjones to let her know she is being childish?
Where is cofty to embarrass her about highjacking the thread? 


I only treated the lady like shit 
     AFTER she CONTINUALLY and on every thread where I was
     treated ME like shit. 
She said I was calling people names.....so I did. 
OMG I don't have that many cheeks.  Babble without a scripture.  

I know, believe me I KNOW  Matthew 5:39 AND Luke 6:29

My blood is boiling

It is.  Just so you know

Friday, July 27, 2012

What about the temptations of Jesus?

People say Satan must be a person because someone tempted Jesus in the wilderness.  Then other people say he was tempted from within by his own evil nature that is present in all men.  But not women.  ;)

That's a joke.  Just so you know.

If Satan is not a person, then who tempted Jesus?  First you have to know the Bible is in signs.  So the bread, the bowing and the jumping all mean something else.

Heaven opened up for him before his undertaking in the wilderness so he knew what would happen to his ministry.  He knew that people would twist his words and use them for selfish gain.  He knew his Father would be accused of every terrible thing.  He knew he would fail for the most part.

That was the satan that tempted him.


The father of the lie

To be learning to be offended by what someone says even if what someone says is true is training the communicator to lie.  But to be lying is siding with satan.  There might be no person of Satan.  Satan might be the name for the feeling lots and lots of people (most people in my humble opinion) (it has been my experience)  (I mean like whose fault is it?)  own when they hear, thus feel,  the truth about themselves.

Sometimes the feeling of offense is generated by the subconscious, then there's real trouble because the offended one must make up a reason for the feeling and nine out of ten times (that's an estimate) the fault ends up on the first thinker, but never on the second thinker.

LOL

Thanks for popping in.  If no one ever popped in I wonder if I would write.

Probably.

But I wouldn't be as funny.

I'm not funny?

I guess funny is in the eye of the beholder.

Eye?  I mean ear.

My dream

It was a group of JWs and I was welcome in the newly bought house of my friend.  It was dirty.  The windows needed washing and the walls were spattered with grease and there was damage to some small pieces of wall.  I told the man I have cleaner and rags but no ladder.  He said or she said I forget, he has no later, and I thought "what?".  I had the thought of asking a neighbor and so I finally somehow got one.

The group was attentive, unlike usually.  A brother elder I know asked why does God allow the Faithful and Discreet salve but he did not call them that, I think he called them them.

I said the sight is wonderful, scary, I forget the other word.  But is also promotes in the human hearer quick human riposte, which is bad, I know.  I do not know if it is always bad.

See?  You go along "doing the will of God" because you were told to do so by men. It is preaching The Good News and being nice (even if you have to fake it). But then when you see it (the condition of the spirit) you will react without considering The Will of God because it is urgent that change has a beginning.

That was what I dreamed.

That is why imo God allows them to continue.  It is because now they have become your eyes.  Spiritual eyes.  Can it be fixed?  I believe the accounts in the Bible where Jesus heals eyes.  Why has He not healed yours?  Have you asked?  You should promise after you are healed to follow him now, even if he doesn't look so good, after. No, I can't SEE him.  Then how...?  How the person FEELS, you will see.  You do not understand.  A dead person's feelings can not change.  A living person's feeling are changing all the time.

Jesus is not dead to me.  Yehoshua* is alive.

*The Son knows that it offends some witnesses that he prefers his Jewish name.

Thursday, July 26, 2012

Who are you?

Am I under surveillance?

LOL

OK.  Just my blog is?

Does it mean I can still walk from the shower naked?  Or should I be more careful?

Or lose twenty pounds?  I'm kidding.  

The head of John the Baptist

The Jehovah's Witnesses teach that because John was murdered and died before Jesus Christ did then John can not be brought to Heaven to rule with Christ as King and Priest.  Even though Jesus said of him "there is no one greater than John the Baptist"

The word says so

But the Word also warns do not take the seat of Moses.  And they do that.  They don't?

Poor John

But I shall not speak here of injustice.  I want to talk about philosophy.

If the Bible is a drama and a shadow of reality what does it mean that John was beheaded too soon?

The Witnesses will tell you that the four attributes of God are

1.Justice

2. Wisdom

3. Love

4.  Power

John came with justice, wisdom and love but not with power.  Or do you really think the greatest man would prefer Earth habitation and growing vegetables to ruling in Heaven?

So the forth one is wrong.  John being the greatest would be coming in God's image best (he being the greatest) but he did not come in power.  He came in truth.

The four attributes of Jehovah

are

1. Love

2. Justice

3.  Wisdom

4.  Truth

Jesus is Love and he has the Way (justice) Life (wisdom) and Truth (truth)

So we can see that John was killed in a prophetic drama he losing a part of him like the World has lost TRUTH.

I don't think it really means anything but it is food for thought.


Through the Law Comes the Knowledge of Sin

Romans 3:20

What sin does the Bible warn about?

Galatians 5:14

14For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” 15But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.

It means even a righteous person is a sinner from the standpoint of righteousness because salvation's power comes from justice for salvation upon one's neighbor, not upon one's self.  And there is according to me right this instance no one doing that.  I know that there are existing others who know that but I say what I know.  Am I NOT just in saying what I know?  Many people think so.  I know that is true.  Ouch!


So then you can see.... if the Borg has not infected you with Borg... that is the reason why Paul* wrote "if you are led by spirit you are not under law".  That means  it is the spirit that is love, justice, wisdom and truth so if you are  being led by The Spirit you are no longer under pressure from the  law to do the law which is to do for others that which The Spirit will do because The Spirit  acts through you to accomplish the law.  It no longer has to be KNOWING if it is doing because you love God with all your heart and you neighbor as yourself.


*The argument about who wrote what and what is to be believed and what is not to be believed is what I believe is described at Revelation 16:12-16.  Armagettinoutofthere so I got out. 

No one righteous

Does it mean there exist no Cyrus to bring vengeance on those who like at Daniel 5:3,4  drink from the vessels of God?  Vessels?  Love, justice, wisdom and truth.


Context

<< Romans 3 >>
New American Standard Bible

10as it is written,
         “THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUSNOT EVEN ONE;11THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS,
         THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;
12ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDETOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS;
         THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD,
         THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE.”
13“THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE,
         WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING,”
         “THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS”;
14“WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS”;
15“THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD,
16DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS,
17AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN.”
18“THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES.”
      19Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; 20because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

Delusional

I have come to know that you can not imagine what it feels like to see the Kingdom of The Son of God trampled under the feet of the "lovers" of the Son of God and to witness The Father being hated.

I can not imagine how much longer Heaven can stand it.

I have both sides of me convinced I am delusional.  But I imagine that I might have the "enemies" of God ie "unbelievers" fostering me much more than my "brothers" in Christ are.

I don't even believe it is possible for me to exist in such an atmosphere.

So why do I I wonder?  

Wednesday, July 25, 2012

The last word

Well Nancy all i can ask you is, what were the apostles chosen for? Was it not to teach and lead people?  That is how God wants it, so if you cannot accept that, then you need to complain to Jehovah about it. 

I love the elders for the wonderful work they do and the governing body for being spiritually alert and willing to take on the task that Jesus assigned to his disciples.   When we focus too much on ourselves, we can fail to see the bigger picture. 

The reason for my comment about finding another religion you are happy with is because you seem to think that there are better religions out there.  If you already think that, then you might as well join them and make it official.  Nothing you have to say is going to sway my allegiance to Jehovah, nothing. 

This will be my final goodbye and I do wish you all the best.  







There are other people beside me that can see that the members of 
the Jehovah's Witnesses call themselves "Jehovah".  


I guess there is nothing wrong with that....


I guess we shall see.


If someone was lying about what I said.  Oh wait a minute, they do.  It makes me angry. 


So all they are really doing is proving either 


1. God does not get angry
like the Bible says God gets angry 


or


2.  There is no Jehovah



A letter to all Jehovah's Witnesses


The true religion is Christ.  
 
You know yourself and teach it is true that anyone not siding with Christ sides 
 
with death.  That is true.  I believe it too. 
 
I am not even saying that the religion you profess is wrong. 
 
I am saying they are wrong to teach that they ALONE are the 
 
way, the truth and the life. 
 
 
Surely by comparing what you know to the Bible you can see it. 
 
I am sorry I have caused you trouble.  I'm just saying if you believe once saved 
always 
 
saved is ridiculous, how can you believe once righteous, always righteous is 
right? 
 
 
I am not sorry for the education I received from the likes of you.  I am 
grateful. 
 
But that does not mean everything they tell you is true.  
 
How can they be perfect and imperfect at the same time? 
 
 
May you have peace in Jesus' Name. 
 
Nancy 

What?

Hi Nancy,

Im not going to argue with you. If you were an Israelite living under Moses direction, would you criticize him and walk away from him?  Probably not. So why is it so difficult to believe that Jehovah is using men to lead his people today?   I don't understand how anyone could take issue with that.  It seems you are looking at their faults and mistakes and you've concluded that because of such faults, they cannot be the right avenue to know Jehovah.  But what other religion is teaching bible truths and doing Gods will?  None.  Even the ones who are proclaiming Gods name as Yahweh, they still hold to pagan teachings and practices that God condemns. 

 I am sorry for the situation you are in and hope that you find happiness in another religion of your choice. 


************************************************************************


Moses?



Yes, by saying "choose whatever religion suits you and be happy" 
means "I have nothing more to say to you".  I understand.  
You are a Bible student/teacher, are you not?  
What did Jesus say about those taking the seat of Moses?  He was 
talking to the Jews and he also said he came not to destroy them 
but to fulfill and he did.  Now the Watchtower is trying 
to fulfill some more.  That is what people know but you don't 
know because you are being faithful to men.  That is 
your religion. 



Matthew 23:2 

2saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves 
in the chair of Moses; 3therefore all that they tell you, do 
and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they 
say things and do not do them. 4“They tie up 
heavy burdens and lay them on men’s shoulders, 
but they themselves are unwilling to move them with so much as 
a finger. 5“But they do all their deeds to be 
noticed by men; for they broaden their phylacteries and lengthen 
the tassels of their garments. 6“They love the place 
of honor at banquets and the chief seats 
in the synagogues, 7and respectful greetings in the market places, 
and being called Rabbi by men. 8“But do not be called Rabbi; 
for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. 
9“Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your 
Father, He who is in heaven. 10“Do not be called leaders; 
for One is your Leader, that is, Christ. 11“But the greatest 
among you shall be your servant. 12“Whoever exalts himself 
shall be humbled; and whoever humbles himself shall be 
exalted 

How are your leaders NOT exalting themselves?  
Moses appeared with Christ on the mountain.  
How can you honestly compare your leaders with him?  
Also it is written "One Teacher One Father One Leader"  
They are making themselves equal to The Son of God.  
Do you remember what the Bible taught you?  "step away from the 
tents of those men"  24“Speak to the congregation, saying, 
‘Get back from around the dwellings of Korah, Dathan and Abiram.’” 
Numbers 16:24 

How do you know other groups are clinging to pagan teachings?  
And if they are, like the Bible Students were at one time 
(before new light) how do you know they will continue to do so?


Do not judge or you will be judged too.

Hating Haters

I shall say why haters are so bad.  It is not that they hurt a person's poor little feelings. The reason is when haters multiply against a person the person hated can't stop wondering if she deserves to be hated.  And that maybe there really is something seriously wrong with her.

And it has led her to believe that everyone she meets will eventually hate her.  Why not?  If everyone she has ever met has become a hater how can she believe everyone else won't?  Unless....

Unless SHE MAKES THEM FEEL BETTER.   Not truer, but more in love with themselves.  Not with her, mind you, because now she lives for you.

She doesn't live for God anymore. She lives just to make you feel  more comfortable and happy about the choices you have made and are making.

And that might be something that you don't want to hear.  I think I'll never get the hang of it.  Say la vee LOL

Tuesday, July 24, 2012

An answer


Dear B*****e, 
 
Why would you settle on that conclusion? 
 
That is not what I wrote. 
 
I wrote that by observing who is appointed and who is not appointed 
I came to the conclusion that it is by man's standards and NOT 
Jehovah's standards that the appointments are made.  
 
Where do you read that I believe you should be perfect?  
 
The problem is you SAY your group ALONE is preaching 
The Kingdom and telling people about Yahweh.  OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT.  
Your Governing Body seems to me to be telling everyone that 
to side with the Governing Body means salvation.  
I have even heard it taught that the Christian Congregation of 
Jehovah's Witnesses is the same like Noah's Ark.  
To be refusing to get in with you is to be destroyed.  
You say "come back to JEHOVAH".  But what you mean is 
"come back to the Jehovah's Witnesses".  How can you know I have left 
Jehovah?  

I have not left Jehovah. 
 
Nancy 

A letter


> Hello Nancy,
> I havnt reported any threads you've made and i dont know what thread you
> are talking about. The moderators check the threads all the time and they
> have rules about content and it could be that you broke one of those rules
> so they deleted it.
>
> But I just want to say that the brothers and sisters in the organization
> are not perfect people. No one is perfect yet and we are all living with
> our own problems and trying to make the best of things until sin and
> imperfection is removed.  If you think holy spirit is supposed to make us
> perfect, you are quite wrong.  The operation of holy spirit today. is for
> the purpose of helping us to get the preaching work done.  Jesus said "you
> will be witnesses of me" because he would send out the holy spirit and it
> would work in us to do that work.   It doesnt make us perfect sinless
> people.  We are still going to make mistakes and rub each other up the
> wrong way from time to time.
>
> The elders are appointed by holy spirit in the sense that they meet the
> 'spiritual qualifications' as set out in the scriptures.  Men who  have
> endured a long time, who have remained faithful, who have devoted their
> lives to God, who preside over their families in a fine way, who show godly
> qualities and who are well respected, who follow direction, who are humble
> etc etc.  That is how they are appointed.  It doesnt mean  that they are
> perfect & sinless.  Even the Apostle Paul and Peter had a big argument over
> something they didnt agree with....and the Apostle Peter went through a
> phase of discriminating against gentile believers and thought he needed to
> segregate them from the jewish believers.   So if you are seeking
> perfection, you wont find it among Jehovahs people.
>
> But what you will find are a group of people who are doing their best to do
> what Jehovah asks of them and who are willing to take Jehovahs name to the
> nations.  Perhaps you've lost sight of why we are all in this
> organization...its not for our own benefit, but it is for the sake of
> Jehovahs sovereignty.  I would encourage you to come back to jehovah and
> focus on him and what he wants you to do rather then on what you percieve
> as an injustice toward yourself.  Think of all the injustices committed
> against Jehovah and all the torment that he has had to endure...our lives
> mean very little in comparison,  but our lives also mean a lot to Jehovah
> and he loves you and wants you back.  Dont punish Jehovah for the mistakes
> of a few people.

Turkey

I'm making Turkey today.  I make turkey and lasagna  often.  Most people don't.  If you and who you're cooking for like sauce then put more sauce in and you don't need to cook the noodles first.

I got excommunicated again today and was feeling bad with mixed feelings so my husband who is a doll said "have some wine" so I did.


Just so you know like you care

33 clickers inners.  It's a big day for me.  Do you want more button pictures?

I know what you are afraid of

It had been prophesied that false teachers would enter the flock.  And it happened but what they taught got adopted.  Now people believe the lie like it is true but I don't.  So now the Christians think it is me who "declares good news beyond what we declared" Galatians 1:7-9 so let me be accursed.  Well, I am strong enough now to deflect your curses.  I am.

I do not know for how long though.


Really? How so?

I have said that it is the Watchtower that teaches people to hate God.  The scripture I have used is
Proverbs 6:16-19.

It doesn't really matter if the scripture means doing these things means the doer hates God or whether
God hates the doer of these things because God is love thus God hates to hate so if you do those
things that God hates you are hating God because God is love...

How do the Jehovah's Witnesses the religion manifest "heart fabricating hurtful schemes"?  Proverbs 6:16.

Simply put, they silence anyone opposed.

Like they do to me on forum.

Let's break it down shall we?

Oh bother.  "Heart" has been translated "heart" but can actually be translated "hearts" (according to Strong's Concordance) which is what it should read because it is a group effort.  OK!

I don't like the white strips so look it up yourself.  Please.  Thank you.

The next word "devise" according to Strong's which might be wrong means "altogether"  So!  There ya go!

Next comes "plans" which is "thoughts".

And then comes wicked to wrap it up.  But according to the evidence it means false.

Are you following me?

I'm trying to make it as simple as I can.   (btw I think moving back and forth from Biblos to Blog is what makes the white strips.  We shall see and I won't fix it because I don't know how)

It means those who play false so that others will see only the good side of them.

Sound like anyone you know?

They shut down my thread....again....


Dear B*****e, 
 
I hate to assume anything without enough evidence but I have the feeling 
you reported my thread for bad content.  Is my opinion bad?  I did not 
write anything that is not true, did I?  
 
I was a witness for a long time.  At first it was difficult to pay the 
best attention to what was said because I raised babies in the truth.  
And after that I had what seemed like narcolepsy during some meetings.  
It took every ounce of energy I had just to stay awake.  
 
Then I got suspicious of the doctrine of Holy Spirit appointment of 
elders.  I saw elders in high appointment that had no tender affection 
at all and I saw brothers with so much humble tender affection 
I had to wonder why they were not appointed.  One brother who fit 
the last description was low income, a little bit gimpy, 
not handsome, but clean, he seemed to be low in intelligence, but he 
was a faithful witness.  He was married and a very good husband 
as far as I know.  His wife was happy.  She was a pioneer 
and he pioneered often.  But he was not an elder.  
James 2:5 1 Corinthians 1:26,27 
 
I witnessed a botched judicial proceedings.  Even the brother who led it 
said later to my friend (this is hearsay, he never apologized to me) 
that they handled it badly.  From the start I knew they had.  I was a 
spiritual mess.  I could not sleep.  I requested the Holy Spirit to please 
show me in the Bible where they were right.  But over and over again 
the spirit anointed me with soothing balm.  The Spirit showed me nothing 
to vindicate them.  But I forgave them, of course.  Well, it was their 
off course action that caused my distress which caused my revelation.  
So I should thank them but I think I won't. I'm sure they would not 
understand.  But I might be wrong.  I think I will wait for 
"paradise" to find out.  
 
After that I was wide awake for ever single syllable that was spoken by 
every single member. I didn't see the wisdom, the love, the faith that 
the society claims it alone has.  At the time it was my husband, who is 
an atheist, who showed me kind understanding with wisdom.   
It was many years after the kingdom hall episode that I left.  
I did not seek apostates out. (there is a scripture 
about Paul, when he had his revelation he did not go to the nations for 
confirmation...that's how I read it... but I can't find it).  So I 
didn't.  Which is a good thing.  
 
Now I am alone.  The "great crowd" doesn't love me.  I know because 
I have not heard from them.  When I was going through my very 
difficult time they left me alone.  If it really was "satan" 
who was leading me away, why did not Jehovah 
send a rescue to me?  All they had to do is keep me busy showing me 
love, consideration, and understanding.  No one did.  
For months, years now, no one did.  No one.  
How can that be explained?  Now I am without friends.  The 
witnesses are cautioned to stay away.  The "appostates" hate me, 
I don't really know why.  Both groups will claim they don't hate me.  
OK.  I suppose that matters to me a little.  
 
I try to speak the truth.  But it is true that speaking the truth makes 
The Truth look bad.  Whose fault is that? 
 

Sincerely, I should probably say what I am thinking as I click "send" 
In Jesus Christ Name 
Nancy 

Monday, July 23, 2012

Oh yes!

Do you want to know how I know what it means "and nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark the name of the wild beast or the number of it's name"?

Well, I shall tell you.  I do know that the lovers of Christ aren't so good about sharing.  So I know that without commerce I would be uh, naked?

Do you know what that means?  I bet you don't!

Revelation 13:17  That's were it says that.   I love the computer, don't you?  You're on it.  How do I know that?  LOL  I am funny.

Being alone is starting to get on my nerves

There is no one to talk to.  There is no one else who wants to reason from the scriptures.  I'm thinking I feel like Joseph.  But not when he was boss.

Is there anyone out there?  Is there anyone who cares?  Is there really no one to talk to?

My thread got reported.  And I got on an ignore list.  I am sure about one.  But I suspect I am on many more.

I'm on a new forum.  Why do I keep doing it?  Why?  

They took no note

Do you think it is the way things should be because Jesus said it would be so?  Do you have any idea how depressing that is?

26“And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: 27they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28“It was the same as happened in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building;29but on the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.30“It will be just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed. 31“On that day, the one who is on the housetop and whose goods are in the house must not go down to take them out; and likewise the one who is in the field must not turn back. 32“Remember Lot’s wife. 33“Whoever seeks to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. 34“I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left. 35“There will be two women grinding at the same place; one will be taken and the other will be left. 36[“Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left.”] 37And answering they said to Him, “Where, Lord?” And He said to them, “Where the body is, there also the vultures will be gathered.” 

Sunday, July 22, 2012

The pen mightier than than the sword

Is it also true that the word is mightier than war?

What does religion teach that is in opposition to peace?

1. The Earth is the cross to bear for believers.  It is Heaven that is the real destination, or according to          Jehovah's Witnesses it is paradise Earth that is stored up for them that is their destination.



2.  God will come with vengeance to eliminate all in opposition to whichever religion you subscribe to.

3.  To be acceptable to God for life and not destruction you must a. know which group is right b. find them
      and c. be them.

So if you are Brain and the "spirit of the air" which is among other things 1,2 and 3, (above),  but you can't "hear" it because it is spirit, but your inner man "knows" it because it is real in the world, what will you do?

1. You might want to defend yourself.  You will not know that yourself is your enemy but it won't take long for you to chose who it is that is your enemy.

2.  You might become hopeless.

3.  You might act crazy.

These are roots of Society's problems.  Aren't they?  So why is there no TALK?

Because Religion is scary.  Or....  Why is there no talk about the CAUSE?


Teachers




Dear B*****e,

Thank you for your quick response.

It has been more than two years since I walked away.  It was not difficult for me as I have no family members there and because any friends I had made are in another state.  I moved away five years ago.

The Watchtower says false religion is Babylon the Great an enemy of God that will be destroyed.  It will be destroyed because it teaches error to the people, it is involved in worldly politics, it joins the war effort, and other things.  There is a strong case for the fact that the Watchtower Society also do those things.  Why are they exempt?  Why do they keep secret the fact they they have dabbled in some of the things they accuse other churches of doing that will get them destroyed?  Other churches do not TELL you to keep away from learning.  Why does the Governing Body feel pleased to keep their people ignorant?

I wrote a letter to them before I defected.  I said in the letter that surely they can see that they are described at Revelation 6:2 and NOT Christ Jesus.  They did not respond to my letter.  So if I am right that they are the rider of Revelation 6:2, they teach error just like they say the churches do.  There are other scriptures too that they teach wrong.  If they teach The Word wrong they WILL GET the same sentence that they SAY others will get.  Matthew 7:1  They teach this scripture applies to
individuals ,and that is right, but why does it not apply also to the organization?

1“Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2“For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3“Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4“Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye? 5“You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.

Yours truly,

Nancy

Saturday, July 21, 2012

Nobody talks to me.

I suppose I can make up a million reasons why that is.

It's an exaggeration.  It is not nobody talks to me.  When I meet a person in person we have a nice conversation.  And sometimes on forum people respond to my post.  Not often.  And many times the response is to  disagree or ridicule.  Actually not many times but I think all the time.

I have found a forum where the posters there have manners.  I haven't been whacked once there yet. Of course I am being more careful.  I wonder if my not being careful on JWN was a blessing because I am chased away from there and that is fine by me.  It really is.

It is not as though the silence out here will drive me back to the Kingdom Hall.  The reason being is there is more silence there.

I visited Religious Science yesterday and read some posts.  Um, OK that is one reason I know that nobody talks to me but if you were in solitary confinement for too long you might sound a little crazy too.  You would, you know.

One reason why I think I get no response on my blog is it is my enemies who are linking it.  I don't really have enemies.  Nancy doesn't.  My philosophy has enemies.  Since my philosophy is in my brain and my brain is what makes me go than I can say I have enemies, can't I?

Do you think I am a cult?  That is funny.

Btw I might think a lot but it is only me.  A cult can't be one.  

Friday, July 20, 2012

I feel like chatting

Chatting is communicating without purpose.  It's just right for my godforsaken blog.  Amen.

I shall tell you dear reader why I think I think I think weird.  And unpopular :(

When I was in my formative years, lets say two, my mommy ran away from my daddy and moved us to Sweden.  My mom moved in with her mom and dad who are Swedish so I heard speech that was foreign.  Now I discourse like nobody understands what I am saying.  I think I already told you all that they call me the babbler.  So I just want to say that is why I think it is so.  In my soul I have another way of thinking.  So it comes out mish mash.  

Thursday, July 19, 2012

Just so you know

Dear Nancy,

to whom did Jesus entrust his teaching to?  was it not to his faithful apostles...all of them were men.  They formed congregations and taught those congregations and the congregations accepted the leadership of such men.  The apostle Paul was a man who had never met Jesus, yet he formed  many gentile congregations and taught those congregations...the congregations obeyed Pauls directions.  [is that so?  proof?]

When you read the bible, you are reading the writings of men who gave us direction and teaching that we must strive to obey.  [obey what?  Jesus said "you will know the truth and the truth will set you free].

Actually, unless Jesus or Jehovah personally come before you and speak to you directly, the only way you will ever hear from them is through the mouths of the men [Genesis 21:12, Judges 4:5, Ruth 3:1-5, 1 Samuel 25:19,28, Esther 4:15,16,17, Proverbs 31:26, Galatians 3:26-29]  they appoint.  It has always been that way.  So i dont know why you have an issue with the group of men who are assigned to produce the literature that we use to help us understand Gods word more clearly. 

Mark 3:14 And he formed [a group of] twelve, whom he also named “apostles,” that they might continue with him and that he might send them out to preach

Acts 1:8 “You will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon you, and you will be witnesses of me both in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria and to the most distant part of the earth.” 
As I said before, there are disciples who do have authority to teach and whom Jesus gives holy spirit to in order for them to preach and teach.   The governing body are appointed by Christ to preach and teach....and thats why we should listen to them. 

 It is the people who have allowed the Governing Body to rule.  The only testimony existing that they are appointed by Christ is their own and the people who are loyal to them.  It is what "a crown was given" means at Revelation 6:2.  It is their own people who give them the power not Heaven.  How do I know?  A voice says "come" to the rider on the white horse.  The white horse stands for the written word. Jehovah the Father is in Heaven.  Jehovah is the only authority greater than Jesus.  So it is only Jehovah's voice that can order Christ.   But then the voice would say "GO" not "come".







I think it would be obvious but it has not proved to be obvious.  The Bible has not been written to obey.  It is written as a warning.  It's not a recipe, it's a sign.  

Someone wants to know

How is the way "cramped" if there are so few on it?

Matthew 7:14

2 Corinthians 10:5  

If I was writing a book

In my story the Jehovah's Witnesses would be a secret society of men who seek to know what the Bible says.  The best way to do that if you haven't got any Holy Spirit is to teach it wrong.  Then someone will come to it's defense.   Eventually someone, I shall emphasize some one because it's funny that  way, will want to straiten things out a bit so she will.  But turns out world kind of likes things crooked.  Which I guess is funny times two!

But it isn't a funny book so it won't sell well.

I think they know they are teaching it wrong.  Not everyone knows but I'd be willing to bet the Governing Body knows.

Oh!  Understanding it incorrectly is what "the wide gate and the broad way" means.  Where I wonder does it lead?  What?  Destruction?  Hm I wonder if THAT'S right?

Matthew 7:13,14

I have found that to understand it one must look for the twins of scripture.  Is there one?  There is one.

Revelation 6

That rider on that horse is introducing the Great Tribulation, no?

No no no.  They like the WORD crooked that should be strait and they like TIME strait but it is crooked.

How is it twin?  The broad way leads to destruction and the rider of the white horse leads to destruction.  (There are other people who know the rider of Revelation 6:2 is not Jesus)

Jesus coming is described at Revelation 19:11-13.  So the rider described at Revelation 6:2 comes like Jesus.  They might even believe they are for Jesus.  Matthew 24:5  How many people have interpreted that scripture to mean they come saying THEY are Christ?  They are saying He is Christ but their works prove otherwise.

Um I might be wrong but I think he was warning his followers NOT TO MISLEAD (by being false teachers of the word) Like me?  Ya, like me ;(  

Another twin is Hebrews 10:25 "as some have the custom".  What is the custom?  The custom is walking the broad way listening to the false teachers.  It is custom, no?    

Matthew 16:25


Dear B*****e, 
 
I am stumbled?  
 
You say "if the Elders did not take direction and teaching from the 
> governing body, then their teachings would have to come from somewhere 
> else".  

But where does the teaching that the Governing Body is occupied with 
come from?  Who is your intermediary? Whenever you do anything religious
it is for the name of Jehovah's Witnesses.   What about God's Name?  
What about asking for Holy Spirit in Jesus name?  John 14:14  
Jesus said "my sheep listen to MY VOICE".  John 10:27 
You are listening to the voice of the Governing Body.  
I believe it is you who is stumbled.   
 
Jesus warned "he who would save his soul will LOSE it"  Matthew 16:25.  
You go door to door telling people how they will be SAVED by siding 
with Jehovah's Witnesses.  
 
But Jesus said he who would lose his soul for Jesus, 
(not for an organization), will find it.  You are sticking 
to the Governing Body because they tell you if 
you do not stay you will be LOST.  Jesus did not teach that.  
If you can prove scripturally that Jesus taught that 
I will go back on my knees to the Kingdom Hall.  In words not in pictures. 
(Noah, first century congregation, Nation of Israel).  Those are pictures 

of God's people cooperating.  Tell me where it says 
as a command that I am to obey men instead of God, please, 
and if you can do that I will try again to do it. 
 
Yours truly, 
Nancy 

Wednesday, July 18, 2012

The Great Crowd

What does the Great Crowd come out of?

The great tribulation is not a period of time that has a beginning and an end date.

The great tribulation describes the World that has not followed the Fine Shepherd to the peace described at Psalm 23.

To "come out" of it means to listen to what the Spirit says to the congregation.  The congregation is the great crowd.  

What IS so funny?

I think it is funny that something believed by many people is found true by them by virtue of being believed by many people.  But if someone were to disagree and offer an explanation more practical it would not be believed because someone is just one and not many.  That is funny, right?   

It's actually not

To you dear reader it sounds like crazy talk?  It is not crazy talk.
The funny thing is there are reception devises for picking up extraterrestrial signals.  I think I heard You are not doing that any more which is good because it's a waste of time isenit?

I'm speaking ENGLISH to English readers and they don't get me.  Oh!  Maybe I'm being translated into Russian.  I think that is so cool by the way (btw).  LOL.  Am I coming through clear?

Where have all my friends gone?