Monday, August 4, 2014

It is not possible

It is not possible to share the Bible with reasonable people for it to lead them along with Jesus if it is UNREASONABLE.


Jesus

There are two mistakes in the Bible that I have posted a lot about that I think DO make a difference.

They say Jesus said to make disciples.  The making of disciples is a life changing occupation.  The one making disciples must live for it and the one being made must change for it.  Most people will never make-over another person to be for Jesus so why would Jesus command it?  Also he never told us HOW to do it. Some people feel less of a disciple if they can't make more disciples.  Their focus is on making others love God when it should be on loving God.  Also it puts everyone on the same job.  All the parts of a body are not for the same job.  The JWs are ALL about making other people into JWs because they believe Jesus said make them.

He said "Having gone therefore disciple the nations".  People believing him were to do what he did.  What was it?   God's will, whatever it is for that person.

The other important one that is wrong is they have Jesus saying "take care you are not misled".  Misled?  By whom?  Yourself?  If you are following Jesus' lead who should you beware?  JESUS?????  Are we to be making Jesus into a leader who doesn't mislead?  Or are we who wish to teach about Jesus to be careful not to be wrong?  Of course!

They make the Bible about how not to be wrong.  Jesus is about how not to be wrong.  Untruths are wrong.  Truth in Jesus is right.  Truth can't mislead but by their saying "see that you are not misled" apparently it can.  He would never have said it.  What makes more sense, that would carry the same idea is "Stay by me. Do not quit following me". But people have quit.  Even his beloved disciples did at first.  Were they not welome back?  They were.  So he said "take care you do not mislead".

It is possible to mislead in the name of Jesus Christ even if you, or I, believe we love him.  Even if we believe we love who teach.  In fact I can see the whole world has been misled.

Saying I am leader, do not be misled makes NO SENSE.  But all the Bibles say it. All of them?  I think so.

A conversation continues

[Dear Nancy]

If you have knowledge then fine. It makes me think most times, which is good. But I don't see what difference it makes. What do you think that most people do wrong that needs changing?
I mean in practical terms



Dear R.

When enough people agree that misunderstood scripture misleads but the Bible right leads (thought) then eventually it will be corrected....for future generations.  It takes many more than one person to change it.  If there is nothing wrong with it how can The Lord change it?  By magic perhaps?  The Lord Jesus can't use magic. It is against the law.

Another letter

[Dear Nancy] But that is a contradiction in terms. You say you do not go beyond what is written. Then you say, but what if it is changed..haha. You have to make up your mind. If you are saying you go with your own understanding, then so does everyone.

Dear R.,

I am not "going" anywhere.  I am reasoning from the scriptures.  If A is true then B can't be.  Jesus says "GOD IS LOVE".  The Bible though says LOVE can hate.  It is my "opinion" love can't hate.  People will say ""but the Bible says "love what is good but hate what is bad"". (Romans 12:9) That is not what it says.  It says 'Cling to what is good and have horror for what is bad.'

Which is exactly what I am doing.



The letters

[Dear Nancy] I think my eyes will have none of this today. They ache.

If you are saying that the church and JWs are wrong, as with all the others..... at one time I would have agreed. Now as I have said, I think there are different levels of reality. As such I can see them right and wrong at the same time.

Each person gets through their life. Many disagree on many things, yet they still survive. I see religion like that. There are different levels of Consciousness within God, we ALL fit in there somewhere. Consider for a moment your own position. What if you are wrong?
Everyone considers themselves right, do they not?  I would say that each one of us should be careful with how we judge others. God's will is greater than ours. To tease at a winkle is fine, but to smash it open with a hammer is not. We are all to be judged eventually.

You see life here as a test?* So do I. But we can all fail it, me, you, everyone. Even Paul did not consider himself innocent.
R.

Dear R.  If the mistakes are in association with the words of the promise of God that the earth will stand forever and Abraham's seed will become like the sands of the seas or the stars of the heavens, then to let them pass is setting yourself up as God's enemy.  Do you care?

What if I am wrong?  Wrong about God is love?  Are you kidding?

All the Bibles and the Torah  too (probably) say "Jehovah hates"  "YHVH hates" "The Lord hates"  But what if it says that the doing of those things HATES Jehovah? Two different worlds?  You bet!  You are betting your soul on Jehovah hates.  I am betting my soul on God is love.

Yours truly,

Nancy


*actually I had not mentioned the world as a test but the book I was proof reading as the test.  The test to evaluate my intelligence.  Paranoid?  Whatever!  I am smart enough to realize what is possible is possible.