How many?

How many books, churches, schools, classes and families teach the words of The Savoir Christ wrong?  Do you say all of them?  OK.  Let's go with that.  What I am saying should not be proved true then, correct?

If I was assassinated, it might be telling, don't you think?  So it has to be an accident.  Am I asking for it?  Uh. no!  There is a good story in this somewhere.  I do remember my story store!   You want some more?  OK!

If I die I might join the power of the heaven.  So the ones who want me dead are the same ones that don't. I think that is funny.   On the other hand if it is possible to get my words in the main stream the bad men who bet on the future won't care much about what is coming out of heaven because because because they only care about uh winning.  And they know if they die there is no more winning.  

When they decide to

It is my imaginings that say it does not bode well for Babylon the Great because of my musings.  But one thing is certain, people do not care.  Which I said thank you for already.  The other thing is, it could not have happened without the internet. How so?  Well, I did ask the man to write a story. But I have no proof he did.   If he did, all I want is a signed copy.  OK?

I have discovered the Man has built his house on the sand but the Man has way more of everything than I do.  The Man wishes his folly would please not become known.  If he knew where I was (he might, I don't know) and what I would write he might have tried to stop me.  I don't know if he did try.  Anyway, to get rid of me now means nothing.  It's in cyberspace.  I love cyberspace!

Do you want me to finish the sentence?  

Another false teaching exposed

I kinda asked the spirit if there was another one to share.  I told the spirit I did not want to seems too pushy, you know?

But while reading another thread I found another one.

Luke 10:28  and look!  a lawyer certain stood up testing him saying "teacher what having done life eternal will inherit?" And he said to him "in the law, what has been written, how read you?" And having answered he said "you will love lord god of you with all the heart of you and with all the soul of you and with all the strength and with all the mind of you, and the neighbor of you as yourself". He said moreover to him "rightly you have answered, this do and you will live".  

It is assumed 'Jesus'' answer meant keep doing the commands and you will keep living.  But I think it means keep answering correctly and you will live.

It's twin?  Judges 12:6  The Gileadites captured the fords of the Jordan leading to Ephraim, and whenever a survivor of Ephraim said, "Let me cross over," the men of Gilead asked him, "Are you an Ephraimite?" If he replied, "No," they said, "All right, say 'Shibboleth.'" If he said, "Sibboleth," because he could not pronounce the word correctly, they seized him and killed him at the fords of the Jordan. Forty-two thousand Ephraimites were killed at that time.

And

There is another one but my suspicion says I am off tract according to You.  What can I do?

The Man of Lawlessness

Matt 7:21-23 is another mistranslated verse.

Matthew 7:22,23 Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

It is obvious it says "YOU never knew HIM".  Yehoshua knows everyone. It is written he is every man's head.  Why would he say to anyone "I never knew you"?

Btw, "depart from me, those who do lawlessness" means YOUR WORKS WERE APART FROM ME, LAWLESSNESS IS WHAT YOU DID.

Yehoshua is he who has made God's will known.  When we work in association with the way, the truth and the life which is Yehoshua (the Hebrew name of Jesus) the works we do can be called "together" with Christ.  If the works we do are not in harmony with God's will then it can be said they are done "away" from him.

The Trinity Doctrine

What real harm does teaching God is as god as three people?

I understand that pictures of the Trinity are making an image.  And that some people say God is One so to say God is three is putting two gods ahead of one God.

There is also a command to take not the Name of God in a worthless way.  How do people do it?  Whenever a person leans on his own understanding but teaches it under the promise of reward from YHWH  it means taking God's Name in vain.  

What is this place?

"see that you are not misled" teaches distrust. Do not trust yourself, do not trust God's power to deliver you, do not trust the foolish girl, do not trust the fine shepherd, beware you are not misled.

Now on the other hand, it was the purpose of Yehoshua to train others to tell the good news. He also commanded his followers to go to all the nations, bringing the good news to them and teaching them. Therefore "be careful you are not misled" really actually means "beware you do not mislead". Be careful while you are teaching to teach the truth and not the lie. Please, which makes more sense? It is commanded to weigh one's words, is it not? It is a command to keep following the fine shepherd, is it not? 

1 John 2:6 Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. 
Please, did Jesus walk afraid he would get lost? That is what they say Luke 21:8 says. They say Luke 21:8 is a reminder for those tempted to get lost.

In God's image

Some of the words written are misleading, not due to the inspiration behind the words, but due to the impression the inspiration caused in the hearer.  A long, long, long time ago.  It is my thesis Jehoshua knew the people were being misled.  Why did he not say so?  I don't know.  Seek YHWH ask YHWH but first seek meekness because you'll need it.  What do I mean?  John 6:38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. We do not know if Yehoshua ached to tell us.  I think he did.
To follow Yehoshua is to listen to the word as he often said "it is written".
So followers of Yehoshua listen to the word.
What is happening is what I call double speak  (look it up).  What hearing, teaching and speaking double speak does to a group, a nation, even a world is reduces it to a form of life where words don't matter.

Jude 1:18,19 Remember the words which were spoken by the apostles of the Lord of us YHSH Christ that they said to you in the last time there will be false teachers walking after their own desire.  These are they who make a distinction [for being] natural (psychikoi meaning animal nature) not having Spirit (as in vital principle).  [The vital principle is love.]

Where words don't matter is an animal world.  Words are what humans have.  Are we in God's image made?  Then words should matter.  It seems all I am hearing is belief is all that matters.  Well, it is my unchangeable opinion that unbelievers are right not to believe in twisted words.  They are right.  Believers in twisted words are wrong.  Twisted words lead to a world where words don't matter.  That is where believers are leading the world.


James 1:4 Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.

How does the traditional view of "believe in the Lord Jesus and be saved" harmonize with  James 1:4?   They can't both be right.

Hebrews 10:38 But my righteous one will live by faith. And if he shrinks back, I will not be pleased with him.

How does a person shrink back from faith?  He stops listening, learning and growing.  He is naturally satisfied with his progress so far so he leaves off following Christ.  He still "believes in" Christ.  Hell, Christ is power.  But he won't listen anymore.  he has become an unhearing animal.

It's not about judging people.  Not the sin either.  It is about judging the situation.

Is God's Word a sword?

Someone might say how the mistranslated  Bible might affect their relationship with the Christ.  First of all I suspect he also had a mistranslated Bible.  Love should have corrected it, but love did not.  Now we have it.  Leave well enough alone?  I'm no chicken.

When Jesus went to supper with his disciples no one washed his feet.  To me the hate and judgement  clauses of the old (and now also the new) testament are like dirty feet.  It would not be changing the original intent of scripture to remove the hate and judgement directives as they were put in there by men.  God is love.  How do I know?  You are not listening.  God is love.  So either the Bible is not from God or it has been corrupted.  More and more people every second of every day are choosing to believe it is not from God.  Why?  Because believers are choosing to leave well enough alone.  They are still choosing not to wash the master's feet.

It is unconscionable that there are many many people believing "if God wanted it changed it would be".  It is a believer's JOB to reflect the truth.  It is not the job of YHWH to reflect the truth for you and you and you.  It is [U]your[/U] job.  Seek YHWH Seek righteousness Seek meekness.  Seek meekness?  At the same time believing God is telling you to hate and to judge?  Please, how so?

Is the Bible God's word?  Is it a sharpened sword?  It is not if it is not right.

I'm not done yet wasting my time

Words can make a person over to satisfy desire.  It is called learning.  What is a believer's desire?  "To be made new in the force actuating the mind".  What force? Truth powered by love.

Ephesians 4:22-25 You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; to be made new in the attitude of your minds; and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness. Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor, for we are all members of one body.

Psalm 15:2-5 Yahweh, who shall dwell in your sanctuary? Who shall live on your holy hill? He whose walk is blameless and who does what is righteous, who speaks the truth from his heart and has no slander [or causes of slander] on his tongue, who does his neighbor no wrong and casts no slur on his fellowman, In whose eyes a vile man is despised, but who honors those who fear Yahweh; he who keeps an oath even when it hurts, and doesn't change; who lends his money without usury and does not accept a bribe against the innocent. He who does these things will never be shaken.

In whose eyes a vile man is despised?  (Maybe there are more than 100 errors).

was translated from niḇ·zeh bə·‘ê·nāw nim·’ās, [wə·’eṯ-]
English: is despised eyes a reprobate [?]
If I apply the rule here Love your neighbor as yourself it cannot mean what they say it means.  The Was Is Is Coming does not change.
The word niḇ·zeh means the opposite of esteem.  I think that is what it means.
bə·‘ê·nāw means eye.  I think it is well translated outward appearance.
nim·’ās is translated reprobate which is an unprincipled person.

The next verse says; fear Yahweh honors swears hurt and does not change.
Apply the first part to this second part.  It means the man himself.  He should despise in himself an outward appearance that can be construed as unprincipled Because HE honors YAHWEH.  But it says; And those fearing Jehovah he does honour. HOW can a person know who honors Jehovah?  Young's Literal Translation It is not possible.

But again it is telling us to hate and to judge because it is a bad translation

Six billion

Most people see nothing in it or they see justice and judgement.  To be seeing judgement in love is to be misled.  Is that not obvious?

So.... lets go back to the customary attitude of Proverbs 14:7.

Go away from in front of a stupid man, for you will certainly not take note of the lips of knowledge. NWT

If the One Mind could possible win Armageddon which it is being said is the war to decide who lives and who dies and you live, you must believe it the customary way.

What is it telling?  If it is an order and many people believe the words are heavenly orders then you have to judge who is not worthy of your presence.  Is judging loving your neighbor as yourself?  How to know who is foolish?   What if someone is having a bad day and seems to you to be behaving foolishly?  What will you do? Will you leave and never come back?   How many foolish things does a person have to do to get on your fools list?

Change the pronoun and mercy be!  It makes sense.

Proverbs 9:9 [U]Instruct[/U] a wise man and he will be wiser still; [U]teach[/U] a righteous man and he will add to his learning

The opposite of wise (one who listens and learns) is foolish (one who does not want to listen and learn).  So to take your leave of someone not listening is a kindness to yourself and the one not wanting to listen.  The right way to read it fosters love.  The printed way in how many Bibles?  Six billion.  fosters judgement.

Does anyone know?

There is a difference between words and meaning.  When the holy ones wrote the Abrahamic record they wrote words that would lead them to Yahweh.  Yehoshua is the Way.  They wrote  words that reflected true meaning.  Yehoshua is the truth. They wrote words that prove there is more to life on Earth than earth.  Yehoshua is the Life.

Nobody is with me to believe changing the words changes the meaning?

Do you say it is me doing it?  Am I changing the words?

Well, why if your words have not led to peace and prosperity for the Earth does it matter?  Does it matter who is right?

Is there really no one to reason with?

What is wrong with Christianity?

Christianity teaches the power is in the person of the son of God and not in the words of the son of God The Word.  "Surely the person of God will judge fairly".  But what if no one is listening?

It is taught in some Christian Churches, the Jehovah's Witnesses being the foremost organization (but not according to me, according to them), that to align yourself with the words of the Bible means to be saved.  But there is meaning behind the words.  The meaning behind the words is called The Word of God.

If you ask God what are the people worshiping, the answer would be the words, not The Word.

What else do people worship?  Many people worship the power of God not the Person of God.  

What does the One Mind look like?

Also, for other JWs on the board, would love to get your views on this topic. Pegg's argument is very interesting but I really would love to hear other views.

other views . ...... thats funny stuff 

What does it mean?
Pegg is a Jehovah's Witness
And the one saying "that's funny" posts as a Jehovah'sWitness.

Their brains are trained to hear nothing but the Watchtower Doctrine.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/jehovahs-witnesses-dir/144012-days-genesis.html#post3218444

The counterfeit Bible

An example of false words.

Proverbs 14:7 

New International Version (©1984)
Stay away from a foolish man, for you will not find knowledge on his lips.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Stay away from fools, for you won't find knowledge on their lips.
English Standard Version (©2001)
Leave the presence of a fool, for there you do not meet words of knowledge.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Leave the presence of a fool, Or you will not discern words of knowledge.
Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
Stay away from a foolish man; you will gain no knowledge from his speech.
International Standard Version (©2012)
Stay away from a foolish man, for you will not find competent advice.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
To the foolish man, everything is against him, and the lips of the wise are the weapons of knowledge.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Stay away from a fool, because you will not receive knowledge from his lips.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Go from the presence of a foolish man, when you perceive not in him the lips of knowledge.
American King James Version
Go from the presence of a foolish man, when you perceive not in him the lips of knowledge.
American Standard Version
Go into the presence of a foolish man, And thou shalt not perceive in him the lips of knowledge.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Go against a foolish man, and he knoweth not the lips of prudence.
Darby Bible Translation
Go from the presence of a foolish man, in whom thou perceivest not the lips of knowledge.
English Revised Version
Go into the presence of a foolish man, and thou shalt not perceive in him the lips of knowledge.
Webster's Bible Translation
Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.
World English Bible
Stay away from a foolish man, for you won't find knowledge on his lips.
Young's Literal Translation
Go from before a foolish man, Or thou hast not known the lips of knowledge.
The NWT says the same but it is missing from the list. 

First ask your self why a believer would look to any man for knowledge? We have the Word. Now it is saying you won't find knowledge in a fool. Oh really? Why would God bother to tell us that?

There is something that I do realize

I know how to make arguments about all the Abrahamic traditions that I believe are wrongly interpreted to make The God look bad.  So if I could actually prove it in the popular culture I would be a real enemy of every bad person that likes things the way they are.

Because you are not listening it proves to me you care about my hide.  Thanks for that.  But I think it is much more important to stop error from multiplying than it is to grant me another day.  I don't believe that I would definitively become a target but even people who bet on commodities might consider me a threat.  How much do recalls affect the economy?  Do you know?

What if?

I have a family, friends and responsibilities.  But what if I didn't and to preach was the only thing I cared to do?  It's been years now and I have not found one listening ear.  I do not really know that is true but it appears to be as no one is ever present to talk with.

If I decided on the natural course which is to leave the world, would everyone who knows about what sheep do but would not do it find themselves on the way to destruction or would they still be on the way to life because that is what they want?

"Then the king will say to those on his right, 'Come who who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.  For I became hungry and you gave me something to eat;  I got thirsty and you gave me something to drink.  I was a stranger and you received me hospitably;  naked and you clothed me.  I fell sick and you looked after me.  I was in prison and you came to me.'....

In reply the king will say,  "Truly I say to you, to the extent you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.'

It is my theory that the word "least" was once "last".  Also it is said that God has a building which is you and me but I think that was changed from the verb building to the noun building.  God is building up his house in knowledge and wisdom.  Who will know the last part placed?  No one.  So far no one.  

To bring to ruin

It is said Revelation says God will "bring to ruin those ruining the Earth" which they say means anyone not for Christ and Christ's Kingdom will be executed by Jehovah.  But it means exactly what we are seeing which is a decaying of all those who are causing the Earth to decay.  It means reaping what is sown.  

Matthew 25:46

There is one important teaching that I believe "goes beyond the things written".  It is Matthew 25:46.  It is common in Christianity to interpret it as "these will go away to eternal punishment but the righteous to eternal life".  Which it is being said means the reward for good works (eternal life) but the punishment (death) for all the unbelieving.

I am sure it does not mean judgement.  It means those on Christ's right hand are working the works that lead to everlasting life but those on the left hand are working the works that lead to destruction.

"I have put life and death before" says YHWH.  Life is on Christ's right hand, these are sheep.  Death is on Christ's left hand because man's works lead to death.  Christ is the head of every man.  It is a vision of reality, not a vision of a future judgement.

You will say "how do you know?"
I am saying "How do you know?"  I know the answer to my question.  The answer is "they go beyond the things written".

The twin reflecting scripture is Revelation 11:18  But the nations became wrathful and your own wrath came and the appointed time for the dead to be judged and to give reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.

The Twins Project

I need to get busy or I feel I might lose my mind.
Twins is defined by me as Biblical Scriptures that  compliment or reflect each other.

It is believed that Luke 21:8 means beware you are not misled.
First I will say what comes to mind when I read it that way.  The lost sheep was misled by his self, by a noise, by lameness, we do not know.  But the picture of the lost sheep should never become in the mind a sheep that did not heed the command "do not be misled".
Luke 21:8 makes no sense at all saying "beware you are not misled".  In fact it can cause a mighty stir read that way as the whole world is being misled and is lost.  If it is true "the whole world lies in the power of the wicked one" it is asking too much to be "not misled".

What does it really say and how do I know?

Luke 21:8 says "beware you do not mislead". What is my proof? Most people won't be able to see it.
Matthew 5:13 is its twin.  Here it is said "you are the salt of the earth but if the salt loses it's saltiness how how can it be made salty again?"

See how Matthew 5:13 is a stern warning?  The same warning is repeated at Luke 21:8.

Are the animals led to the salt lick by the shepherd?  I think so.  Yehoshua is The Shepherd.  When he died his seed became many more what?  Shepherds.  A shepherd's job is to lead the sheep. When a person becomes a shepherd in the likes of The Great Shepherd they must take to heart the warning at Luke 21:8 BEWARE YOU DO NOT MISLEAD. 

have a funny feeling

Is my blog being redirected out of cyber space?
Is my writing so bad I have no readers?
What is wrong with my blog?
Does it have something to do with money?

I want to know why I am being ignored by seven billion people.  OK, not the babies. And not the people who have no internet.

Is destruction not serious business?

There is a blog of a young man that I read.  He is on the edge.  He writes about violence against people, against himself and against property.  I bet the government is having too much fun playing boss man to know anything that is worth knowing.  What is wrong with the World?  

What my grievance with Jehovah's Witnesses is

The Jehovah's Witnesses teach false religion will be destroyed.  They define false religions as all religion that does not believe and teach the Bible correctly.

It began about 120 years ago with a group of church going men who did not like the hell fire doctrine that was being preached.  They also believed that God is not a mysterious trinity.  They believed the Kingdom of God is not something for the people who have died and went to heaven but is a real government that will rule the Earth in the future. 

It is because they have said 6 billion people will soon take their last breath that I write.

They teach and preach that in the future the Earth will be home for people who believe in the kingdom only.

They will not tell you that because it sounds bad.  If you ask them they will say "God is judge, we are not to judge".  But they do judge.  How?  Seven million people who are led by the faithful and discreet slave, judge the slave class (the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses), as worthy and capable of leading.  They also teach there is one leader, Christ.  How do they explain the paradox of one leader Christ, a spirit, but a group of leaders, the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses?  They say it is them and only them that Christ communicates to.  They also claim there are 144,000 Kingdom heirs and some are alive today but they have no say in governing the seven million.

I have been shown many errors in all the modern Bible translations.  By whom?  I don't know.  Maybe I am smarter than I look.  Maybe the "helper, the Holy Spirit" helps me.  Why does it matter?  Some of the errors are so obvious an elementary child can see them, if they wanted to.

That is where I am at.  Why do people not want to?  I think it is the One Mind that is preventing progress in Peace.  And that is why I write.

One Mind

The One Mind is the belief that the Watchtower is God's tool to make all human kind of one mind.

1 Corinthians 1:10 Now I exhort you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among you, but that you may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.

2 Corinthians 13:11 Finally, brothers, continue to rejoice, to be readjusted, to be comforted, to think in agreement, to live peaceably; and the God of love and of peace will be with you.

Philippians 2:2 make my joy full in that you are of the same mind and have the same love, being joined together in soul, holding the one thought in mind.

1 Peter 3:8 Finally all you be like-minded, showing fellow feeling, having brotherly affection, tenderly compassionate, humble in mind.

When they teach the one mind they teach it is their Jehovah's Witness doctrine that is to be agreed upon.   

Do I have a point?

I fear there is no one on the road to life as prescribed by Yehoshua the Son of God.  The reason why I think so is what he said.  Or more precisely what is written of what he may have said.

People have said to me "God would not mislead me".  I think they think I am being misled.  I mean they think they cannot be misled because they profess to believe in a god.  These same people who have said so have read the Bible.  It is their business to KNOW the Bible and they believe they do.  They say 'Jehovah' will not cause them to wander and that is how they know they have the right way.

What if to know YHWH is to know The Word?  There is a great fight going on about who The God is and how a person is suppose to know God.

It seems that many people believe that because they want to obey God they do.  Is it as simple as that?  Why am I making it so complicated?  It is because to know God means to live for life but to oppose God means destruction.  Everyone knows it is what is being taught.  Why don't people believe it?  Even believers do not believe it.  I think it is because they hope to feel safe in Heaven when destruction does come.  How do I know destruction is coming?  Because of the sheep and the goats.  And because the Jehovah's Witnesses who have the power of One Mind say so.

They are for the One Mind.  I don't like it.  I think it is already happening.  I suspect the one mind is taking over already.  They were suppose to wait for the other side of Armeggedon. Barelegged?  Spell check.  Does anyone know how armeggedon is barelegged?  It's enough to make a person crazy.  Anyway.

Jehovah's Witnesses keep saying Armageddon is a war between God Almighty and people. After the war there will be left people for the One Mind.  I am not making this up.

What do sheep and goats have to do with it?  I think I am a sheep.  I am all alone.  That makes every one else goats. (from my perspective)  Where is it said the goats are going?  "Off into destruction".

Why is nobody listening to me?

I have two enemies.  One is the doctrine of predestination.  Which means it does not matter that no one is listening.  The other enemy is confidence in self righteousness.  Which means goats that believe they are sheep will take their chances.

What can be done?  How much time do we have?  I don't know.  

The Word

For you to listen to the voice of Jehovah your God, to keep His commands, and His statutes, which are written in the book of this law, for you to turn back to Jehovah your God, with all the heart, and with all the soul. For this commandment which I command you this day, it is not too hard for you, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that you should say, "Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it to us, and make us to hear it, that we may do it?" Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, "Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?" But the message is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, so that you may accomplish it. See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction in that I am commanding you to-day to love Jehovah your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commands, and His statutes, and His judgments; and you have lived and multiplied, and Jehovah your God has blessed You in the land where ever you come  in to it possess it. But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.

John 10:27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
John 10:3 The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
John 10:4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice.
John 10:5 But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice."

To listen to the voice of a stranger is the same as to bow down to other gods and worship them. Why voice and not word?  I think it is because the stranger has most of the same  words but the words are counterfeit words, thus they can be discerned by anyone loving Yahweh with the whole heart.

I fear

I fear the One mind is going to win.  You certainly deserve it but I don't.  What is the One Mind you say?  It is you dead if you do not match the uh one mindedness.  I shall die rather than doing that.  But most people won't even know it's happening.

I have this overwhelming desire

To say fuck.  Read it quick.

Some people

I'm thinking of the traditional view of holy.  First of I shall mention my opinion of what holy means.  We are told we must be holy.  I think it means in tune with reality to see what God sees.  The traditional view of how a person manifests holiness is holy people take themselves out of mainstream and become mountain like people.  But then according to my definition they would cease being holy as now they can no longer see what God sees.  God sees the orphans and widows.

I have been pursuing holiness as I believe it is a command from my Lord.  I shall not quit seeking holiness.  It's not in the plan to stop.

Have I taken myself out to be....sacred, extremely pure, sublime, devout, self righteous, chaste, hallowed, innocent, perfect, reverent, seraphic, revered, angelic, religious or else?

No!  I am me.  What do I do?  Lately  I spend most of my time on the computer.  While I am philosophying  on forum I play games.  I play Wild West Town on facebook. I play hearts and free cell.  Sometimes when I am playing I am also thinking the house could have some cleaning.    It is an average house and average clean.  I clean along the way.  I do not use much cleaning chemicals.  That's the green in me.

What else?  I cook and do 99% of all dishes.  Haha.  I see it! An example por voo.  Did I forget the the?

Do I love?  Do you?

I'm an average person.  

Matthew 27:46

The people made it so. 
There is a fight about who and what is the way to salvation. Defined salvation means being delivered to life.
The JW know it is people who made Mohammed the way. Islam knows it is people who made the JW way the way.

I have seen that the gospel is about how it is people who made Christianity the way. 
The scriptures say to follow Yehoshua is the only way. Who made it so? Yahweh? Heaven? Yehoshua? No. I was shown it is the people who made it so. When? This morning actually. The New Testament sans the first four books is a description of how it became that way and why. 

My mind is not allowing me to explain the root, I thought route, wrote root, it took to get to the conclusion. But it looks like math but without numbers. Maybe if someone else would be willing to see it it would be manifest.

Then someone will say why then did they (the writers) not say so? Why did 'Paul' 'Peter' 'James' and 'John' beat around the bush? It is because Yehoshua is the way so no one can honestly say he is not. But when someone or something becomes what they are because of the people but not because of Yahweh, his, or it's power is lost. We see that Yehoshua's power is lost.

About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"--which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" Matthew 27:46

People will not say I do not know how Matthew 27:46 applies.

'Jesus' saw the trend, of course, that he was being put up on a pedestal and would be. Thus he knew that he had not led the people to YHWH. So when he said what is recorded at Matthew 27:46 he was asking why? Why have I failed?

Need

Do cases of need cause bridges between souls?

Kriss cross applesauce how am I like my mother

Please get us some coffee while you're out.

My mother is a knitter.  She knit wool and polyester into things.  Knitting is many thousands of stitches that when done correctly usually ends up being something worthwhile. 

And what does this have to do with Bible Study.

They told Yeshoshua "like father like son".  I don't read commentaries.  He said back "like mother like daughter".  I like best thinking about Yehoshua.  It occurred to me I do not know what that means.  So I got to thinking how I can apply it to what I know.  And voila!  Knitting.  Which reminds me of a thread on Religious Education about ambiguity.  Which some people hate.  I am like my mother (who is a worldling) who knits and I (from out of this world) am like her as I 'knit' evidence together to stay on the way to YHWH.

And that is the answer.  The question was why can I see the scroll but it does appear no one else can see it.  No one else who is living in my world that is.  Because I can see the evidence which I shall call stitches.  And everyone else is blind by the god of this system of things.  2 Corinthians 4:4 calls the people unbelievers from the word unpersuaded but that makes little sense to me.  If you care to look up the word it's meaning is "without faith or trust" and that is accurate.  They trust the promise but they do not trust the way.

Last

People comprehend the illustration of the separation of the sheep and the goats many different ways.  I have my own vision in my head about it.  I want to mention just one word today.  "Least".  As an aside I shall say I am feeling less than least by everyone calling their self a Christian.  But I think the word was changed from last (the written word) to least (the misunderstanding).  Someone may have thought incorrectly last meant least and made more sense so he switched the words.  Small mistakes like that are called leaven.  

There's so much to talk about.  Why do I care?  I do not know if I care.

How so last not least?  Truth is progressive.  I won't ticker tape the truth because I don't like ticker tape.  I shall tell you by means of memory (this ought to be fun!).

These are some scriptures in abbreviated  form.
The light gets brighter
There are many more things that you are not able to hear presently
Listen
The Helper will guide you
The spirit searches all things
We have the mind of Christ

Let's talk about minds.  How is thought progressing?  As evolution is the explanation of bits and pieces of next to nothingness finding each other and becoming a complex organism, wisdom is the explanation of bits and pieces of next to nothingness coming together to form a revelation.  All the bits must be just right.

I have no helper

I had a helper.  My helper called itself "the faithful and discreet slave". Sometimes they added the word class at the end because the faithful discreet slave is not one person.  I learned the Bible from them.  Would I have learned it without them?  I don't think so.  My study with the class caused me to be able to see prophesy unrolling.  It seems I am alone with seeing it.  I cannot explain why.  But it might be prophesied why others can not see it.  Revelation 6:14  which appears to be another bad translation.  But I am not today commenting on the misleading part.  I am seeing the results of "heaven departed as a scroll being rolled up".  A rolled scroll cannot be read and that is what I see.  I see there are many scriptural misunderstandings being taught in the highest places.  Why do I think my understanding is correct.  I told you I don't know.  If I had someone to talk to I would talk about it.

Why do I think it is important to know what the Word says?  I think the Word is the way truth and life.  I think way comes first.  The way means hearing the word as told, not as heard.  The truth is what makes free.  And the real life cannot be had without the freedom that comes with knowing The Word.

I was taught that everyone must be on the same page regarding the understanding of the Word.  But those people have made their own words to be believed.

It is not of no consequence that they believe what they will.  They are propagating false truth.  It was warned against but the very people who claim to be the only ones hearing the master have not heard in their heart what he said which is Then Jesus said to them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees Matthew 16:6

Another transfer

I post on Religious Education Forum and sometimes I make a point there that no one sees because each thread is signed by the poster.  I will add it on here because someone someday might read it and I think it is important.

If you were there to follow the conversations would you then be confident you could judge whether it was trolling or not? This question is for discussion. It is not about you personally.

I suppose trolling should be defined first.
The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly ******* people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue.

Can anyone see that trolling does not mean contrary opinions, stupidity, nonsense, weakness ect but means a DELIBERATE attempt to "stir the pot".

I think it is fair to say it is up to the owner of forum to judge if a problem is trolling. They will not always get it right, but they must prevent mayhem so sometimes they must decide that a poster is trolling even if they do not know.

But is it fair for the other posters to judge intent? To call someone "troll" is to assume the intent behind the ideas that are ******* people off is known. Is that possible?

An answer of "yes" it is possible to judge intent, means you know what the heart is.
Of a stranger? Are there people here who believe they can and should judge the hearts of strangers?

I once had an awful time with the group I was with. They were all judging the situation harshly I believed. I called a friend who was away. Instead of saying any number of possible calming, friendly, understanding things she said "I really don't know because I was not there". That was her idea of a helping hand. That might have been the pivotal point of my life.

How so? Christians are admonished not to judge. By saying "I can not say a word about it because I was not there" to me can mean "if I was there and knew all the particulars then I would be able to judge who was right and who was wrong".

OMG then whenever I share this people say there is nothing where one side is all right and the other is all wrong. And I'm like, that is how you know how to help? That is the ONLY way you know how to help? I wonder why you believe I don't know that?

It's about a dog

My husband and I got frustrated with each other this morning.  I strongly suspect he will forget it if I never bring it up.  The next time I talk to him and I won't be ruffled he will assume there is nothing wrong.  What's wrong?  I shall tell you.

We have a dog.  I love the dog OK.  He adores the dog.  That is a problem I let lie, this is a brand new problem.  It is my neighbor.  She has let me know and kindly the dog's morning barking disturbs her sleep.

I will tell  you about what I know about my neighbor.  She is a good person and I am sure she would not complain about anything if it was not important.  She is having a rough time presently.  She has a benign tumor that needs removing.  It is behind her uterus.  She is young and wishes sometime she might have children.  Her husband is away at work for long periods of time.  She has trouble sleeping and I understand why.

We have a dog that gets out of the house.  She gets off her leash.  She even quite easily gets out of her body leash.  Our town has a ordinance which says it is unlawful for an animal to roam "at large".  The only way I have imagined to keep her not at large is to have a cage with a top on it.  Which reminds me.  She knows how to climb chain links.  I have not seen her climb a chain link fence but the rescue man who kept her said she needed a chain link that goes up to the ceiling of the building.

We do not put her in a chain link box.  I have never told my man we should.  My man says she will bark even when she is chained but I do not agree with 100%.  It is not a fight worth fighting that is why I am writing.

I am having an attack of the giggles.  I should probably write the rest later.


It is later.  We put lever handles on our doors.  The garage door has a lever handle.  The dog soon learned she can let herself out and she does.  Every morning she lets herself out.  My neighbor has known that the dog lets herself out.  That is how the husband/wife thing started.  I knew about my neighbor's  sleeping problem.  Then once last week she told me she had had a bad night and was just getting sleepy when the dog started barking.  She suggested we get our lever handles replaced with knobs.  One of the best things about the design of our house is the lever handles and I told her so.  We sometimes put a chair in front of the door to keep the dog in. That is what my post is about the chair and when is a good time to let out the dog.

We have other neighbors too and they have said they do not like the dog's bark either.  I do not know them as they are not nearby.  To my knowledge they have not complained often, just once I've heard.

My dog is a hound.  I mean our dog.  Whenever she catches a scent she goes after it barking loudly.  It has bothered me too but I do not have trouble sleeping.

This morning is Sunday.  People sometimes sleep in on Sunday.  My husband seems to think (honey if you ever read this notice how I said "seems") that peaceful sleeping after 9:00am in not an option.  He is an early riser so then, if someone wants to sleep till 10:00 or my god even later, it's their problem and no one else's. That is not what ruffled me either.  It's kind of dumb/funny.  Oh....bite me!

When he got back this Sunday morning from his regular Sunday morning outing I told him I had thought of letting out the dog at 9:30 but changed my mind for 10:00.  Sometimes his outings take longer than today.  He said he came right back this time not to let the dog out but because my brother-in-law who is our other neighbor and who goes with him Sunday mornings is he who wanted to come right back.  And I believe him.

It was obvious my husband was agitated.  He hates when I get agitated and lets me know each time that I am but that is not what this is about either.

What this is about is the proper time a barking dog should be allowed out to bark.  (the funny thing is when she finally went out at 9:40am she was done with wanting to bark.)  I had let her out at 8:00am on a leash to pee and to poop but after she peed and before she would poop she caught a scent.  So I took her quickly in after barking just three times over the ice.  I did not fall down.

The thing that has me riled is my husband made it about me.  I had told him that I was considering 9:30 as a decent time to let the dog out.  But he insisted that because I  had said 10:00am is a reasonable time that is what time it must be.  Did he hear me say I do not know if after nine is good enough?  No he he did not.  So instead of making the whole thing about being fair to the neighbors he made it about surrendering to me.  So I explained to him I did not decide the 10am thing for me, but for the neighbors who sleep in that late.  The conclusion of this matter is only that people should know 10:00am is too late to sleep in.

What will be the sign of your coming and the end of days?

Jesus did not promise a sign
He sighed deeply and said, "Why does this generation ask for a miraculous sign? I tell you the truth, no sign will be given to it." Mark 8:12
He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. Matthew 12:39

Is the "sign" he told his believing disciples his death? Yes, I think so.
This is how the pertinent account goes;
As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" Having answered...Jesus said to them....

People for the longest time think the writer meant Jesus answered the question this way..."Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains. "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. "So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand--


So "the having answered" part was something not recorded. Why wasn't it? Matthew 12:16 warning them not to tell who he was. The alive Jesus told his alive listeners the sign. His death has everything to do with the good news that he lives in spirit. So the sign is what he said it would be. Dead for three days, but alive. He is only alive to believers. That is what he meant when he said "no sign will be given a wicked generation" because they do not believe his death does not mean death but life.
John 12:24 I tell you the truth, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds.

There is no sign of Jesus coming. But if the World will not wake up there will be signs of his NOT coming.

Server too busy

It seems I was not removed.  Now the server will not dispense my last post as the server is too busy.  But I like it and so I shall cut and paste it here.


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[/indent][/indent]What we have is an OP that reacts to the religion of the child and proceeds to associate it with honour killings, all with the indignant support of a peanut gallerly that persists in wallowing in insinuation and innuendo.[/QUOTE]

I disagree.  The link was made in the man's head.  I bet if he said sorry no one would care.

Honor killings are done on purpose.

OK here's some legal stuff I am proud of.  Bite me.

Why was it murder and not manslaughter?  If she really did it by accident it should be manslaughter (that's for people who don't know).  It was decided it was murder not manslaughter because it was on going and it seems she was warned and did not take the warning.  So even though I believe she did not mean him to die it is still murder, not manslaughter.

I have had a computer for many years.  I was sharing the children's computer.  Now I have my own!  I  learned the basics twenty years ago at school.  Computers were new at the children's elementary school and I volunteered as a docent there.  But I nothing about computers except what I learned quick so that I might be a helper.  I am sad to say I have not progressed much from then.  What is weird is the other day I was having trouble with roadrunner.  Not the bird.  Haha.  Three times I would compose an email and each time I clicked send it would say expired I think.  The point is what I wrote disappeared.  I told my husband and he said "do you know how to cut and past"?

The thought police

It seems I have been removed from another forum.  My computer is working quite well but I am not able to access Religious Education Forums today.  I am assuming it is because they have broke my connection but the problem might be the forum.

I have something to say.

It is what I have observed on the thread (I would transcribe it exactly if I could) Moslem boy killed by his mother.

It is being argued on forum that to put "Moslem" in the title is not fair because religion has nothing to do the crimes people commit.  The sweet poster that posted it is being accused unfairly of inciting the forum to prejudice against Islam.

Team one recognizes the connection between religion and crazy acts.
Team two is quite the opposite and claims the connection is non-existent.
There is no team three.

I believe team one is OK with the fact some people do not see a connection.
Team two is not OK that some people do see a connection.

What do you think?

People will say it does not matter

They are ashamed.  Why does it matter?  It is because the Word is what we have.  To be twisting any part of it is to add leaven to it and a little leaven ferments the whole lump.

Matthew 13:13
Galatians 5:9
1 Corinthians 5:6
Matthew 16:6

Is it interesting to me alone that commentary does not link Matthew 13:13 with the rest?

Think about it.  It is earthly and not hard to understand. 

I'm not being coy

There are obvious errors that people believe as I have mentioned previously.  Obvious things are called earthly.  But it is too long and too far reaching that the errors have existed so you shall keep them.  Because you choose to keep believing contrary according to earthly things I cannot talk about heavenly things.  It would be like banging my head against a wall.

Like what?  Like the belief that God has rejected any one.  It is obvious that it can not be true and also the invitation to "draw close to God" be true.  Obvious contradictions he shall call "earthly".  

Heavenly things are related to conjecture as there are unseen things to consider.  Heavenly things are linked to faith and trust.  You need not trust me that it can not be true that God says to come to Him those that are rejected.  So that is "earthly". It is obvious a misleading view of scripture.  Earth....misled.  Heaven never misleads.  It isn't right.




John 3:12  I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

Skirting

In case you are following me somewhat you might see I am skirting the subject of Jesus Christ somewhat.  I have a reason.  I do not see the point of getting specific if there exists no one listening.  You know?  It is true.  I have not found one soul yet who might give up what is false for what is true. You can say the same for me? It does not agitate me that you think so.  Does it agitate You that I do?

Is it the New World Translation?

I got thirty views from ten different countries the time before last  that I posted.  Is the interesting word "New World Translation"?  Will someone tell me why, please?

no no no no no

It is not funny that it is wrong.  It is funny that it has to stay that way by everyone but me.  How can that not be funny?

BUT I am sure the New World Translation says something else because God talks to them I have heard.

Let's see what it says.

There they are filled with a great dread,
Where there proved to be no dread;
For God himself will certainly scatter the bones of anyone camping against you.
You will certainly put [them] to shame, for Jehovah himself has rejected them.

How can THAT be right and also this be right?;
James 4:8  Draw close to God and He will draw close to you.
Jeremiah 4:14 Wash your heart clean of shear badness, O Jerusalem, in order that you may be saved.  How long will your erroneous thoughts lodge within you?
Malachi 3:7 From the days of your forefathers you have turned aside from my regulations and have not kept them.  Return to me and I will return to you Jehovah of armies has said.  And you have said in what way shall we return?
Matthew 11:28 Come to me all you who are toiling and loaded down and I will refresh you.

Anything YHWH speaks is the last word.  So how can someone return to Jehovah if Jehovah has rejected him?

It means who has rejected YHWH will be put to shame.  But all the Bibles say it is God Almighty that will put them to shame by rejecting them.

The Bible World has says God YHWH hates and abhors people. Some people.

I already talked about another one, but um, Haha.  Whatever.

Here is another one.

Psalm 53:5 says in all the Bibles;

New International Version (©1984)
There they were, overwhelmed with dread, where there was nothing to dread. God scattered the bones of those who attacked you; you put them to shame, for God despised them.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Terror will grip them, terror like they have never known before. God will scatter the bones of your enemies. You will put them to shame, for God has rejected them.
English Standard Version (©2001)
There they are, in great terror, where there is no terror! For God scatters the bones of him who encamps against you; you put them to shame, for God has rejected them
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
There they were in great fear where no fear had been; For God scattered the bones of him who encamped against you; You put them to shame, because God had rejected them.
Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
Then they will be filled with terror-- terror like no other-- because God will scatter the bones of those who besiege you. You will put them to shame, for God has rejected them.
International Standard Version (©2012)
There the Israelis were seized with terror, when there was nothing to fear. For God scattered the bones of those who laid siege against you — you put them to shame, for God rejected them.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
There they feared a fear where there was no fear, because God would scatter the bones of those who are pleasing the children of men. They were ashamed because God despised them.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
There they are-panic-stricken- [but] there was no reason to panic, because God has scattered the bones of those who set up camp against you. You put them to shame. After all, God has rejected them.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God has scattered the bones of him that encamps against you: you have put them to shame, because God has despised them.
American King James Version
There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God has scattered the bones of him that encamps against you: you have put them to shame, because God has despised them.
American Standard Version
There were they in great fear, where no fear was; For God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: Thou hast put them to shame, because of God hath rejected them.
Douay-Rheims Bible
They have not called upon God: there have they trembled for fear, where there was no fear. For God hath scattered the bones of them that please men: they have been confounded, because God hath despised them.
Darby Bible Translation
There were they in great fear, where no fear was; for God scattereth the bones of him that encampeth against thee. Thou hast put them to shame, for God hath despised them.
English Revised Version
There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee; thou hast put them to shame, because God hath rejected them.
Webster's Bible Translation
There they were in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them.
World English Bible
There they were in great fear, where no fear was, for God has scattered the bones of him who encamps against you. You have put them to shame, because God has rejected them.
Young's Literal Translation
There they feared a fear -- there was no fear, For God hath scattered the bones of him Who is encamping against thee, Thou hast put to shame, For God hath despised them

It might not be good.

If it can be proved there exist serious errors in every Bible ever printed it could have effects on the economy and speculation.  I don't know why it's funny.  Does anyone else think it's funny?

Consequences

Consequences do not matter when nobody cares.

Shocking!

The pattern continues...People all over the place still ignore me.  So I have finally developed in my mind what  "I hate you" means.  It is what I wrote on forum.  It was indeed directed to the whole body of forum and not to any particular person. I erased it right away but someone had read it.  Of the course the someone who had read it was probably the only person on forum who really cared  that I did not hate her.  Because like I said...the pattern continues that I have not found one person yet who cares about me.  My family cares about me but the person they care about is mom, wife, friend, sister ect.  (I am not a daughter any more as my parents are dead.)  I am talking about the person of me who sees things differently.  The eyes of my soul are alone.  Which is really weird because I view myself as a Christian.

What is shocking is this:  It is my belief there are many important things that Christianity believes wrongly.  I am not going to write them up here because (and this is obvious) nobody cares.  That is what is shocking. So either I am not a follower of Christ Yehoshua or they are not.

Anyway, the reason I wrote "I hate you" is it did matter to me whether you live or die.  Why would it?  Of course it does matter but it is hard on me that there is no one who cares if the eyes of my soul live or die. That is why.  That is why I wrote I hate you.  I do not really hate anyone.  I'm still working on reaching someone.  Because....God loves you.....and I must love You too.

It feels like the inner me, the thing that makes me unique, is something that Christianity can, would, could and should do without.  How else should I feel?